{"id":842,"date":"2018-05-10T08:51:17","date_gmt":"2018-05-10T12:51:17","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/dahlman.online\/?p=842"},"modified":"2018-05-10T08:51:17","modified_gmt":"2018-05-10T12:51:17","slug":"what-weve-done","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/dahlman.online\/index.php\/2018\/05\/10\/what-weve-done\/","title":{"rendered":"What WE&#8217;ve Done"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>What WE\u2019ve Done<\/p>\n<p>In the days after 9\/11, as the rubble in Manhattan smoked and the nation was in shock, Vice President Dick Cheney appeared on \u201cMeet the Press.\u201d\u00a0 Cheney was grim, and when moderator Tim Russert asked about the role of US intelligence in battling terrorism, he said the following:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u00a0You need to have on the payroll some very unsavory characters if, in fact, you&#8217;re going to be able to learn all that needs to be learned in order to forestall these kinds of activities. It is a mean, nasty, dangerous dirty business out there, and we have to operate in that arena. I&#8217;m convinced we can do it; we can do it successfully. But we need to make certain that we have not tied the hands, if you will, of our intelligence communities in terms of accomplishing their mission.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>It was the first notice that the policy of the United States was changing.\u00a0 Cheney, and Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld, led an effort for a \u201cno holds barred\u201d approach to terrorists.\u00a0 \u201cBlack sites\u201d were established by the CIA to hold and interrogate captured terrorists, kept outside of the United States for the specific purpose of avoiding the jurisdiction of US Courts.\u00a0 Guantanamo Naval Base was chosen as the \u201cprison camp\u201d for the same reason: avoiding US Court jurisdiction, and therefore the rights and protections of the Constitution.<\/p>\n<p>In August of 2002 the \u201cdirty business\u201d was codified by a Justice Department finding on torture.\u00a0The finding, authored by John Loo (now a law professor at University of California, Berkley) drew a distinction between \u201cenhanced interrogation techniques\u201d and torture as defined by the Geneva Convention.\u00a0 Loo argued that there was a difference between the \u201cfeeling\u201d of extreme suffering and fear of death, and \u201cactual\u201d extreme suffering and fear of death.\u00a0 The finding was signed by Assistant Attorney General Jay Bybee (now a Federal Appeals Court Judge.)<\/p>\n<p>This then made waterboarding, feeding by \u201crectal infusion,\u201d solitary confinement and long term forced nudity \u201clegal.\u201d\u00a0 In a specific case where a terrorist was known to have a fear of insects, the Justice Department:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u00a0\u201c\u2026advised the CIA that they could place the detainee in a box with an insect but that the CIA must \u2018inform him that the insects will not have a sting that would produce death or severe pain.\u2019&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The CIA conducted these \u201csessions\u201d at the black sites.\u00a0 They also brought 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